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Posted: Thu Oct 15th, 2009 03:30 pm |
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Governor Granholm Abolishes Snowmobile Advisory Committee!
LANSING - Governor Jennifer M. Granholm today issued Executive Order 2009-45, creating a new Department of Natural Resources and Environment (DNRE) to protect and conserve Michigan's air, water and other natural resources. The new department will assume the powers and functions of the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) and the Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ), which are abolished by the executive order. The order takes effect January 17, 2010.
Lt. Governor John D. Cherry, Jr., at the governor's request, is leading a broad review of state government that could eventually result in the number of state departments being reduced to eight. "The new department will be leaner, more efficient and better able to manage our natural resources and protect our environment," Cherry said. "I've been traveling around the state hosting town halls to get the public's input on government streamlining. Creating this new department will put the interests of conservationists at the forefront."
Several boards, councils or committees are abolished by the executive order. The Michigan Trailways Advisory Council and the Michigan Snowmobile Advisory Committee also are abolished.
Their functions are transferred to a new seven-member Michigan Trails Advisory Council within the DNRE that will advise the governor and the DNRE director on creating, developing, operating and maintaining motorized and non-motorized trails in Michigan.
Who are the experts in the world of snowmobiling, snowmobilers or the non-motorized community?
The Michigan Snowmobile Association was shocked by the announcement. President Don Reed condemned the action. “Snowmobile grant sponsors relied on the SAC committee and MSA to work with the administration to move our program forward” Don Says, “Without their input I have very grave concerns for the future of snowmobiling in the state of Michigan!” When snowmobilers pay 100% of the cost of snowmobile trails, and contribute over a billion dollars a year to Michigan’s ailing economy, why mess with a proven winner?
Reinstate the SAC committee!
We urge all snowmobilers to unite and call the Governor, Lt Governor and tell them that this is a bad move. Snowmobiling is too important to be left in the hands of a Michigan Trails Advisory Council?
Governor Granholm 517-373-3400
Lt Governor Cherry 517-373-6800
Legislators who have supported MSA and the Snowmobile Advisory Committee.
Senator Mike Bishop 517-373-2417
Representative Andy Dillion 517-373-0857
Senator Michelle Mc Manus 517-373-1725
Representative Mike Lahti 517-373-0850
Senator Jason Allen 517-373-2413
Representative Gary McDowell 517-373-2629
Senator Mike Pruci 517-373-7840
Representative Darwin Booher 517-373-1747
Senator Tony Stamas 517-373-7946
Representative Kevin Elsenheimer 517-373-0829
Senator James Barcia 517-373-1777
Representative Steve Lindberg 517-3730498
Senator Patricia Birkholz 269-857-2757
Representative Tim Moore 517-373-8962
Senator John Gleason 517-373-0142
Representative Wayne Schmidt 517-373-1766
Senator Gerald Van Woerkom 517-373-1635
Representative Joel Sheltrown 517-373-3817
Senator Bruce Patterson 517-373-7350
Representative Jim Stamas 517-373-1791
Representative Kathy Angerer 517-373-1792
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Posted: Thu Oct 15th, 2009 10:01 pm |
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They raise the cost for permits, now cut the budget? Someone's getting rich......good job Michigan!
Thank you for the updates Fishweb.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21st, 2009 05:54 pm |
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TeleMech wrote: They raise the cost for permits, now cut the budget? Someone's getting rich......good job Michigan!
Thank you for the updates Fishweb.
Hey guys im sad to hear there trying to ruin the best place there is to snowmobile i sure hope it doesent turn out to be like it is here in Ontario where you pay $180 a year. how much did they raise the passes? I didnt make it over last year poor snow conditons and just seemed to be lack of time hoping to head that way again this year it's a blast.
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Posted: Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 04:58 pm |
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| With Michigans Economy in the pooper,they better not screw with the snomobilers or they can just close the UP after huntin season.If it wasn't for sledders goin up there supporting the Locals with their down-state dollars,Everything up there would just close,and some of it already has due to the depression.Tourism is about all thats left in Michigan-lets Hope Granholm doesn't mess it up.I can't do $180.00 for a Trail sticker and nobody I know can EITHER!!!
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Posted: Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 06:32 pm |
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flylipsdad wrote: With Michigans Economy in the pooper,they better not screw with the snomobilers or they can just close the UP after huntin season.If it wasn't for sledders goin up there supporting the Locals with their down-state dollars,Everything up there would just close,and some of it already has due to the depression.Tourism is about all thats left in Michigan-lets Hope Granholm doesn't mess it up.I can't do $180.00 for a Trail sticker and nobody I know can EITHER!!!
Believe it or not, the UP is surviving this down turn better than lower Michigan is. 
According to the "locals" I know they do not feel the recession is as bad up there.
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Posted: Sat Oct 24th, 2009 01:45 pm |
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| What will this do the the snowmobile clubs who get help with the grooming? Has the funds already been supplied? I do not know these things, we are out of state and are extremely happy to support the groomers and hotel, motel owners. I prefer to go to a Mom and Pop hotel or as my Son calls them notelmotel's I would estimate we provide nearly 5 to 8 K per year in food lodging and fuel just in the winter time, not to mention the summer. Allan
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Posted: Sat Oct 24th, 2009 05:06 pm |
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| Its already happening UP there-Hotel & motel owners are heading south instead of staying open-One we stayed at a few years back in Newberry wasn't open last year.And last year we heard some were really havin a hard time makin it.Look at the deals you can get on wkend packages,they cater to us sledders.I'm retired and went up there last year for 3 days instead of our usual week-and I heard I wasn't the only one cuttin back-it can't go on like this or there won't be any places to stay left open,and I'm gettin to old to stay in a tent in the winter.The Whole state NEEDS Tourism to keep from turning into a Ghost state.Michigans Beautiful Winter or Summer or Fall.I luv em all!!
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Posted: Wed Oct 28th, 2009 03:02 pm |
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DMG,
You are much closer to these issues than I am, but I want to be supportive of the cause. Possibly the best course of action would be for you to form a letter that we could copy and sign and then send it off to our state reps.
Andrew
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Posted: Thu Oct 29th, 2009 01:40 pm |
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| Boy that's too bad. We are the tourist that Michigan likes to see. We live in Fort Wayne, and will drive to mid Michigan every weekend if there is good snow reports. We spend thousands of dollars each season on loddging, food, entertainment and of course have to add to the gear. I sure hope they know what they are doing. Indiana trails don't really exist anymore either, no support and poor conditions has slowly made Indiana winters boring. We look forward to going to Michigan and were thinking of purchasing a place up there this year....no way now. We will have to see how this all turns out. The Grobaski family.
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Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 05:50 pm |
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That piece of trash is doing everything she can to ruin this state before she leaves. Michigan will lose millions if not billions of tourist dollars because of her decisions!
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Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 07:50 pm |
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| I sure do hope she knows what she is doing. My brother and I were raised in Indian River and now vacation there every summer and winter with family and friends. We spend thousands each year. It is also a pleasure to bring our friends, who have never experienced snowmobiling in a winter wonderland. All of whom need snow gear. Very few have never seen "snow"!!! It would be a shame to screw up something so good!!
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Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2009 01:43 pm |
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$35.00/yr surely doesn't break the bank. But what will it be 5 to 10 years from now? 75 to 100 a year? Meanwhile they keep cutting the services?
Here's a thought. I for one would pay 1000.00 for an individual LIFETIME permit. You get one sticker for one sled every year, plus carry a LIFETIME card to show in case you're riding a sled w/ no permit.
As an out-of-stater, the permits are the smallest expense in our sport. But we all expect to see some results from the revenue.
Michigan, the MSA, and the local Clubs in the past has been phenominal. Only time will tell what will happen. It's just not us tourists they will hurt, we will go anywhere. I'm worried about the local residents and businesses. Take a look at the past 2 years, where we've all stayed the night, ate, or gotten fuel. It is getting thin.
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see a shiny future.
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 02:22 am |
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I am so excited to go up and ride as soon as I can. I have put the wave runners up for the year and ready to pick up my new sled on the way up to Lewiston.
I know I am only one of many who go up as much as possible, but living out of state it is a trip. I spend my most of my throw-away money in Michigan and have already planned on coming up 4 times this winter.
Stop the MADNESS is Michigan...PLEASE..... leave the outdoor activity to people that actually give back to Michigan instead of take from it.
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Posted: Wed Nov 4th, 2009 08:22 pm |
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As an Ohio resident I hope they think long and hard about what they are really doing.
We make at least a dozen trips a year with about 15 people per trip. If they continue in this direction they are going then we will just head to the northeast in up state NY. We much more prefer heading to Michigan as residents and business owners are way more friendly. Not to mention trails are AWESOME.
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 03:07 pm |
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yes some old crap!!with are michigan goverment. some one is getting a peace of that money! snowmobiling helps a lot of people up north,and now this,so sad!!!
if its not broke dont fix it.leave it alone.we pay for it.
buy the way what do they with all the lottery money!!!!!!!! now they want more,from snowmobiling too!!!!!
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mride460
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Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 03:13 pm |
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As long as the new DNRE Trails Advisory Board makes sure the snowmobile fund monies stay being used only for snowmobile trail operations and development there shouldn't be a problem. If the new trails board wants to open all the trails to all users then all users need to buy a $35 trail permit. Along with this the trails should be closed to atv's Dec. 1 thru March 31 on all trails, and likewise for the atv season being closed to snowmobiles even if there is still snow to ride.
As far as the trail permit issue. The bill or law was put into effect in 07 or 08 allowing the fee to be raised to $35 per machine, with a cap of $50 per machine over a certain amount of years. I think it being 5 years. Dave can correct me if I'm wrong. At present $35 per machine is not all that bad considering the great shape our trails are kept it. Five years down the road, once the economy has straightened out a bit, $50 per sled will still not be a big deal as long as the trails are still improving every year like they do now and our money stays going only into our sport.
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 07:29 pm |
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mride460 wrote: flylipsdad wrote: With Michigans Economy in the pooper,they better not screw with the snomobilers or they can just close the UP after huntin season.If it wasn't for sledders goin up there supporting the Locals with their down-state dollars,Everything up there would just close,and some of it already has due to the depression.Tourism is about all thats left in Michigan-lets Hope Granholm doesn't mess it up.I can't do $180.00 for a Trail sticker and nobody I know can EITHER!!!
Believe it or not, the UP is surviving this down turn better than lower Michigan is.
According to the "locals" I know they do not feel the recession is as bad up there.
^^ I disagree, I know some gas stations that are feeling the recession in the U.P., some of them live off the snomobilers and they said there was not as many snomobilers last year, even with the snowfall we had, also not as many tourist's this past summer. The Davis store owner in kalkaska is suffering to, he said the snomobiler's just were not out there last year.
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 07:41 pm |
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I have many customers throughout the U.P. and I can tell you they are all hurting.
Last winter was the PITS for most of them. Snow was closer to home for everyone last season.
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mride460
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Posted: Tue Nov 10th, 2009 10:39 pm |
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I'm not saying the recession doesn't exist. My friends that own businesses (bar, motel, gas station, body shop) in the upper are surviving. Some even growing their business. I'm just saying it isn't all doom and gloom up there, nor is it here all bad. We to have customers from St. Ignace to Hurly to Houghton and over 150 in the lower. Yes its slow but its not lets give up and close the doors slow. Lets try to be a little positive about the future. Spend the money we can afford to spend on the local guys and help them make thru this BS so they can still be around when the economy improves.
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Posted: Wed Nov 11th, 2009 02:38 pm |
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| Well It's kinda hard to spend, when the unemployment rate is almost 10%, almost at its worst since 1983, and the jobs are NOT there, I for one know that for a fact, Im working odd jobs to stay afloat, I once had a great job last year, worked there 15 years, they suffered the fuel prices and couldn't go on, so they went belly up, and I know thats whats happening all over, NO JOBS=no gas money=no trips. I buy, what I can to keep michigan going in my racing, and my dunebuggy, but Its not much. Go to the Davis store, and then make a trip over to bear lake to that store owner and ask if they can stay afloat another 2 years, bet ya they say no.
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